– Was there football?
– I played, but I went to work when I was 10 years old. I dropped out of school… Are you in Third grade? I dropped out of Third grade and I went to work. I kneaded three bags of flour with my own hands. I made 100 kilos of bread! We made 150 kilos of bread! And I would wake up at 4 – 4.30 in the morning and go to work. Just barely to make a living.